A Great Time in Chicago! – The 2013 Midwest in Motion Seminar

June 21, 2013 by Michael Siebert · Leave a Comment
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Hello everyone.  Mike here.  On the way up from the elevator to our office, I overheard two young ladies conversing about their trip to Atlanta over the weekend.  Later on in the day, a CPA on our floor told us about his upcoming vacation to the Philippines—certainly a fun time to be desired.  Near the end of the day, Jan told me she was going to Florida on a business trip with her husband.  At this point, I’m thinking in my head “Oh come on!  Everyone is leaving Missouri except me!”

 

Fortunately in the mail we received an invitation to the 2013 Midwest In Motion Education and Networking For Tax Professionals hosted in Chicago and sponsored by the Illinois and Indiana Societies of Enrolled Agents.  In need of a small vacation, and especially in need of a grasp on the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, I went up to Chicago for the two day symposium (Ok you got me, I also needed continuing education credits).

 

Upon my arrival, I was the only RTRP (Registered Tax Return Preparer) in the room full of Enrolled Agents; I felt like a fish out of water at this point.  But as I settled in and conversation naturally bloomed, I could not have felt more comfortable.  Everyone was extremely nice and friendly and I felt like I belonged in the tax industry.

 

The two speakers, James R. Hasselback, PhD, and Robert E. McKenzie, JD, EA, were great and very articulate.  They discussed such topics as the healthcare act, cancellation of debt, bankruptcy, audit reconsideration, and Schedule C hotspots.  It’s hard to stay attentive at an all day seminar and they made it easy.

 

But the real fun was after the seminar.  Karen Miller of Eberhart Accounting Services, P.C. located in Bolingbrook Illinois was kind enough to show me around Chicago.  We took a walk along Lake Michigan and snapped a few pictures.  What a beautiful city.

 

Furthermore, we went to the Navy Pier and rode the big Ferris Wheel.  This was certainly a “Kodak Moment” as the dusking sun created some nice illuminations off the city skyline.

 

For someone who doesn’t get out as much as I should (because I’m too busy reading tax law I guess), a change in scenery was definitely in order to expand my horizons.  I am very young to be in this industry—as I write this I am 24 years of age—and I plan to get my Enrolled Agent license by the end of December 2013.  This event sparked this notion and I am truly grateful to have been a part of it.

 

Thank you again to the Illinois and Indiana Societies of Enrolled Agents and a very special thanks to Karen Miller of Eberhart Accounting Services, P.C.  I would also like to thank Ana G., Bill B., and Jeff S. and the speakers, James Hasselback and Robert McKenzie.

Why Do I Have to Pay Taxes on My Cancelled Debt?

September 7, 2012 by Jan Roberg · Leave a Comment
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This is one of those questions I hear all the time: Why do I have to pay tax on my cancelled debt?  It’s not income so why am I being hit with income tax?

 

Here’s the situation—you’ve rung up some credit card bills and then you couldn’t afford to pay them off.  You make a deal with the credit card company (or more likely a debt collector) and you agree to pay half of it and they cancel the rest of the debt.  Sounds like a pretty sweet deal doesn’t it?

 

At least it sounds like a sweet deal until tax time.  What happens then is that you get a statement called a 1099C form which shows that your debt was cancelled and it becomes taxable income to you.   Not so sweet.

 

But why does it count as income?  This one’s easier to explain with an example.  Let’s say you charged $20,000 worth of stuff.  Let’s say you bought shoes, clothes, a big screen TV and some furniture all on credit.  Or maybe you charged medical bills and food.  It doesn’t matter what you did to acquire the debt.  The results are the same.  Then let’s say you lost your job and couldn’t pay for it.  The credit card company charges interest on the amounts not paid and the bill goes up to $23,000.  You’re in over your head so you get some help from a credit card counselor.  With a loan from your parents you settle the bill for $13,000.  Now you’re free and clear of the debt.

 

But tax time comes and you get a 1099C stating that you have income of $10,000 which is the amount of your credit card debt that the credit card company forgave.

 

It’s counted as income, because unlike your parents, the credit card company didn’t make it a gift.  For the credit card company, if they write off your debt, it’s a business expense, and that makes it a deductible business expense to them.  If they were to just give you a gift, that’s not a deductible business expense.

 

You might be thinking that it’s not fair—but in reality, it’s not only fair, but it’s absolutely necessary.  You see, the credit card company has to report what you charged as income.  Let’s take that TV as an example.  You charge $1,000 for the TV and the credit card company is required to pay $1,000 to the store.  They record the $1,000 as income to the credit card company and then they expense the $1,000 they paid to the store—they haven’t gotten the $1000 from you yet, but since you’re going to pay it, they report the income.  It’s called accrual basis accounting.

 

But now you’re not going to pay them.  They’re already out the $1,000 they paid to the store for your TV and now they’re not going to get the money that they’ve already had to pay their income tax on.  So when they get to the point that they’re going to cancel your debt—well they have to issue you the 1099C to prove they cancelled the debt and claim their tax deduction.

 

But why do they add the interest into it?  Once again, they already counted the interest that you should have been paying on that debt as income.

 

Remember, it takes money to pay for things you want and need.  We pay for those things with our income.  Usually we think of income as wages, but if we buy stuff and then don’t pay for it, that’s also a kind of income to us as well.

 

For more information on cancellation of debt, see my blog post titled How to Report Debt Forgiveness (1099C) on Your Tax Return.

How to Report Debt Forgiveness (1099C) on Your Tax Return

September 4, 2012 by Jan Roberg · 3 Comments
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In my last post I wrote about why debt forgiveness counts as income, but I didn’t explain how to report it on your tax return.  And it’s important that you do report it, or you’ll be getting a nice little letter from the IRS asking you why you didn’t.

 

First and foremost, if you received a 1099C for cancellation of debt on mortgage interest, you should be reading a different post.  See:  http://robergtaxsolutions.com/2011/11/what-you-need-to-know-if-your-mortgage-debt-is-forgiven/ What I’m talking about here is cancellation of credit card debt.  It doesn’t get treated in exactly the same way as mortgage interest.

Generally, if you receive a 1099C statement, I think you should see a tax professional—and make sure it’s someone who’s worked on debt cancellation issues before.  Not everybody does that.  I once had a client who had called around and I was the 5th person he called before he found someone with debt cancellation experience.  He had started at one of those big box tax places and was told that he owed the IRS $14,000.  That’s when he started thinking he wanted a second opinion.  When I did the return, he actually had a refund.

 

To be fair, his case was unusual and he managed to catch all the breaks in the tax code—but if he didn’t  have someone who knew the tax code and where the breaks were—well then he would have been paying $14,000 in income taxes that he didn’t really owe.

 

So how do you report income from cancellation of debt?  Basically, it goes on line 21 of your tax return, in the other income category.  It gets taxed just like anything else that goes on that line—at your regular income tax rate.   That’s what happened with the $14,000 fellow—his preparer put his 1099C income on line 21.  While that’s the correct way to report 1099C income, she had neglected to look for exceptions to see if some (or all) of it might not be taxable.

 

The two most common exceptions to having your 1099C income being taxed are bankruptcy and insolvency.  In bankruptcy, you’ve actually filed for bankruptcy and your case is either under the jurisdiction of the court and the court has granted a discharge of indebtedness—or is under a plan approved by the court.  Bottom line—you’ve got the legal paperwork to back up your claim that you should be exempt from tax on your cancelled debt.

 

With insolvency—it means that your liabilities exceeded the fair market value of your assets immediately before the discharge.    Okay, in English.  Let’s say you owed $10,000 on a credit card—that’s a liability.  Your assets included a car, some clothes, a TV, a little cash in the bank that the value of all that totaled $7,000.  Since your liabilities (the $10,000) are more than your assets (the $7,000) you are insolvent by $3,000.  So if the credit card company discharged $5,000 of your debt, you would be able to exclude $3,000 from tax but you’d still pay tax on the $2,000 that you weren’t insolvent on.

 

To report an exclusion of cancelled debt from taxes, you’ll need to use Form 982.  Here’s a link to that:  http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f982.pdf

 

If you think you might qualify for the insolvency exclusion, you’ll want to fill out the worksheet located in publication 4681, it’s on page 6.  http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p4681.pdf

 

Now to be perfectly honest, I’ve really oversimplified this for the sake of brevity.  Many people will have cancelled debt and won’t qualify for any tax forgiveness.   Also, it’s important that you don’t file for tax exclusions if you don’t qualify for them (it’s a type of fraud—you don’t want to go there.)  And it’s quite possible that you can do everything right with the 982 form and you’ll still get a letter from the IRS asking you to confirm something.  (That actually happens quite often so don’t be surprised—it’s pretty normal.)

 

There are two really important issues you need to learn from this blog post:

  1. 1099C income must be reported on your tax return
  2. You may qualify for some type of exclusion so that some (or maybe even all) of it won’t be taxable

What You Need to Know If Your Mortgage Debt Is Forgiven

November 22, 2011 by Jan Roberg · 4 Comments
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It’s happening all over the place. Homes are being foreclosed on and banks are forgiving loans. Having your loan forgiven can be a lifesaver, but being taxed on that loan forgiveness can be devastating. There are remedies to help ease the tax burden, but make sure you know the facts so that it doesn’t come back to bite you.

If your debt has been cancelled by the bank, you should receive a document called Form 1099C, Cancellation of Debt. This form also goes to the IRS. It must show the amount of debt forgiven and the fair market value of the property that was foreclosed. Once you get a 1099C, make sure that you check it over carefully. If anything is wrong on that form, you need to go back to the bank to have them change it. The two important numbers you’re looking at are the debt forgiven amount (that’s box 2), and the fair market value of the property at the time of foreclosure (box 7). These figures will be extremely important to you, especially if you have credit card debt or college loan money tied up in your mortgage.

The Mortgage Forgiveness Act of 2007 allows you to exclude up to $2 million of debt forgiven on your principal residence. The limit is only $1 million for a married person filing a separate return. You don’t have to be foreclosed on to exclude debt—you may also exclude debt reduced through a mortgage restructuring. This is really important for people doing a workout with their bank.

To qualify for mortgage forgiveness, the debt had to be used to buy, build, or substantially improve your main home and the mortgage had to be secured by the home. For example: let’s say you bought your home for $250,000 back in 2003. You put $50,000 down and financed the other $200,000. The value of your home was going up, and in 2006 when the balance of your loan was $180,000 you refinanced and took out another $50,000 to pay off credit cards. Times have changed and now you have outstanding debt on your home of $230,000 but the value has dropped to $200,000. The bank forecloses and forgives your debt of $230,000. $180,000 can be written off as mortgage forgiveness because that’s the value of what you used to buy the home, but the remainder will still be taxable to you unless you qualify under some different category to abate the taxes. See where the problem is here? If the home is worth $200,000 when your debt is written off, the whole $180,000 that would have been forgiven is already covered by the value of the home, so really the only debt being written off is the other $30,000 remaining after the fair market value of the home is written off. Because that’s not part of the purchasing debt, that $30,000 is fully taxable, unless you can use of the other exclusions.

If you qualify to exclude your mortgage forgiveness from tax, you’ll need to complete Form 982, Reduction of Tax Attributes Due to Discharge of Indebtedness (what a mouthful) and attach it to your federal tax return. Here’s a link to the form on the IRS website: http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f982.pdf. If 100% of your debt forgiven was for a mortgage used to buy, build or improve, it’s not that hard to do the forms. If you’ve got any other debt included with your mortgage forgiveness, don’t go it alone.

Debt that was forgiven on credit cards, second homes, rental property, car loans, or business property does not qualify for the principal residence exclusion. The debt might still qualify for a tax exclusion based on another category, like insolvency. There are instructions about claiming the insolvency exclusion on the IRS website, but for that you might want to get professional help with that. You can’t just go, “Oh, I couldn’t pay so I was insolvent.” The paperwork is a little more complicated than that and it tends to get looked at pretty carefully by the IRS. To be honest, I’ve had to help a few people who tried filing 982 forms on their own and wound up getting IRS letters. Personally, I think it’s cheaper to get help from the start and do it right than have to pay someone like me later to straighten out a mess with the IRS.

Why Do I Have to Pay Taxes on Cancelled Debt?

June 10, 2011 by Jan Roberg · Leave a Comment
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It’s that time of year again when the IRS audit letters are hitting people’s mailboxes. And one of the most popular letters is reminding folks that they forgot to include their cancelled debt on their income tax returns.
“But why should I have to pay tax on that?” That’s got to be the most common question I hear from folks. “It’s not like the credit card company gave me any money, they just cancelled my debt.”
Let me try to explain it the way the IRS looks at it: If you have a job and you make $30,000 you have to pay income tax on that $30,000 right? Because it’s income to you, you pay income tax. I think that makes sense to everyone (You probably don’t want to pay the tax, but you understand the concept).
When you take out a loan for $30,000, you don’t pay tax on it. The $30,000 is a loan and you are supposed to pay it back, so it doesn’t count as income. That makes sense too.
Now let’s say you take out a loan for $30,000 and you don’t pay it back. We’ll skip past the nasty phone calls from the creditors and go straight to the part where the debt is forgiven. The bank says, “Okay fine, we’re going to write off the debt, you don’t owe us anymore.” Well now that $30,000 isn’t a loan anymore, because you don’t have to pay it back. Once that loan is no longer considered a loan—the IRS counts it as income and you get taxed.
But what if I didn’t take out a loan, what if it was just a credit card? It still gets treated like a loan because essentially, that’s what your credit card does for you. It gives you little loans to buy shoes, or a TV, or groceries. If your credit card debt is forgiven, it gets taxed.
So if I get an IRS letter saying I owe taxes on cancelled debt, do I automatically owe the money? Not always. There are some situations where you might not have to pay the tax, or maybe get the amount reduced. The biggest exclusion is if your home is foreclosed on. If you lived in the house as your main home and you lost it to a bank foreclosure, you can have the principal part of the mortgage that was forgiven be excluded from your income (That can be a pretty hefty tax chunk right there).
Another exclusion is for debt that was discharged in a Chapter 11 bankruptcy. So if you’re in the middle of bankruptcy proceedings, you’re going to want to be sure to claim the bankruptcy exclusion.
The third common exclusion is for “insolvency.” Insolvency means that your liabilities (money you owe) just before the debt was discharged is more than your assets (things of value like cash, stocks, your house, your car, etc.)
There are other exclusions, but these are the three most common ones. If you think that you may qualify for one of these exclusions, then you’ll want to amend your tax return showing that you’ve claimed the exclusion. You’ll put that on a form 982: http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f982.pdf This is one of those cases where I recommend that you have a professional work on the return. There are a lot of little details that go into the exclusion of debt that just won’t fit into a short blog like this. If you’re pretty handy with tax issues, the details can be found in IRS publication 4681: http://www.irs.gov/publications/p4681/index.html

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