Will I Go to Jail for EIC Fraud?

EIC Fruad

There’s a big difference between accidentally claiming your child and criminal tax fraud.

I often hear the question, “Will I go to jail if I cheat on my taxes?”  People see celebrities go to prison all the time, Richard Hatch, the guy who won a million dollars winning “Survivor”was been all over the news for awhile for tax evasion.  He spent four years in prison.   Note:  if you win a million dollars on national television, it’s safe to assume that the IRS knows about it and is looking for it on your tax return.  Other celebrity tax evaders include Wesley Snipes, Darryl Strawberry and Willie Nelson.  (And the list goes on and on….)

But what about EIC fraud?  What happens to you when you claim a child that’s not yours, or if you allow someone to claim your child when that person isn’t the parent?  What’s the punishment there?

If the IRS examines your return and finds that you cannot claim EIC, the worst case scenario would be that they impose “civil fraud” penalties on your return.  The penalty for civil fraud is 75% of your underpayment of income tax.

Say for example that you involved yourself in a scheme where you claimed children that didn’t belong to you over the course of three years.  The difference between what you received as a tax refund averaged $5,000 more each year than if you didn’t illegally claim those children for a total of $15,000 in excess refund dollars.  When the IRS catches up with you, they will demand their $15,000 plus another $11,250 for the penalty which would make your balance due $26,250.  Add to that the interest you’d be charged and you see how costly this is.

What makes this even worse is that if you are charged with civil fraud the IRS can then turn the case over to the Criminal Investigation Division for prosecution.  You could face both civil and criminal penalties at the same time—meaning they put your butt in jail, levy your bank account and put a lien on your house and any other property you own.

Most people who get caught for EIC fraud don’t have the money to pay back the tax owed, not to mention the added fines.  And of course, the higher the dollar amount owed to the IRS, the higher the likelihood of criminal charges.  So you really don’t want to hear the word “fraud” if the IRS comes calling.

But that’s the worst case scenario, fraud is pretty dangerous stuff, and they have to be able to build a case for it.  One of the key points of fraud is that you knew you were doing it.  I once spoke to a potential client over the phone, she had received an IRS letter and they were charging her penalties for fraud.  As she explained her case, she kept insisting that “she didn’t know.”   I thought there might be a case for her so I asked, “You mean you didn’t know it was wrong to claim someone else’s child?”  She said, “No, I didn’t know I could get caught.”  That’s not going to get you off of fraud charges.  I gave her the name of an attorney—if there’s a possibility of criminal charges, you’ll want the tax attorney over the EA or CPA.  (EAs and CPAs have client privilege for tax issues only, for criminal cases, only an attorney has privilege—meaning what you tell them, they can’t tell on you.)

In most cases though, a much more likely scenario is an accuracy related penalty—that would be 20% of the under-reporting.  Let’s say you live with your girlfriend, she has a kid, she said you could claim the kid; you don’t know it’s illegal but you get caught.  You’ll have to pay back the EIC plus the accuracy related penalty.  If the EIC difference was $5000, then you’d add another $1250 making the balance due $6,250.  The IRS would add interest to that as well.

Generally, if you lose an EIC audit, you’ll also be banned from claiming EIC for somewhere between 2 and 10 years depending upon the severity of the case.  That’s probably the worst penalty for most people.  Many of the people who get in trouble for EIC generally are able to claim EIC in other years.  Being banned from EIC for 10 years can cost a person over $50,000.  That’s a lot of money.

Accuracy penalties usually involve amounts of over $5,000.  If your EIC under-reporting is less than that, you’re more likely to pay “late payment” penalties which are equal to ½ of one percent per month.  For example, you file your return in February of 2008, in March of 2010 they catch up with you.  This means that the penalties have been adding up for 24 months, you’ll pay 12% for the penalty, plus the interest owed.  Let’s say you only got an extra $1000 for falsely claiming EIC, you’d have to pay back $1,120 plus interest of course.  The IRS will always get their interest payment.

But what if it’s not my fault? That’s a very common question.  What if it really isn’t your fault?  What happens if you went to a preparer that didn’t know any better and claimed EIC for you when she shouldn’t have.  Or worse, you had a crooked preparer.  (These things really do happen.)

You’ll have to report the preparer.  There are serious fines and penalties for tax preparers associated with EIC negligence and fraud.  The smallest, yet the easiest to prove, is the EIC due diligence paperwork.  For every tax return that has EIC on it, a paid preparer must have a form 8867.  Here’s a link to see what it looks like:  http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f8867.pdf

The link is to the official IRS form.  In my office, my computer software actually uses the same form but I’m required to sign it and have my client sign it as well basically stating that everything on the EIC form is true.  Here’s the thing—the IRS can call up any tax office at any time and say, “Hey, we’re coming to audit your 8867 EIC forms.”  As the owner of a tax business, I have to be able to pull them all and have them ready for inspection.  If I don’t have an 8867 form for every EIC tax return I prepare, its $100 for each one I’m missing.  Guess what, I’m not going to be missing any of those forms.   I can’t afford it and I don’t prepare that many EIC returns.  You can bet that an office with lots of EIC returns has itself covered in the forms department.

So here’s where I’m going with this, if your preparer really is crooked, do report him to the IRS, it’s the right thing to do.  But if you lied to your preparer about your relationship to the child you claimed or some other EIC offense, and the IRS goes to the preparer’s office and pulls the 8867 forms, and they find a signed affidavit with your signature saying that you are the actual parent of the child—now you’ve just proved that you committed a fraud.  That’s the last thing you want to do.  Remember, a plain error costs a lot less than fraud and there’s no jail time involved.

So what should I do if I receive an EIC audit letter?  If you have the rightful claim to EIC, fight it.  If you’re not sure, maybe you do, maybe you don’t—seek professional help.  I’ve seen innocent people lose EIC audits because they didn’t know the rules.  Don’t take chances, it’s too costly.  If you know for a fact that you should not have claimed a child, pay up and get it over with as quickly as possible.  It won’t be easy, but in the long run it will be better for you.

If you know that you’ve illegally claimed EIC, don’t wait for the IRS to come after you.  File an amended return and pay the tax.  You’ll definitely have to pay interest, but by filing an amended return and paying before you get an IRS letter, you have a very good chance of avoiding the penalties.  You’ll probably sleep better too.


Here are some links that might help:

EIC questions of any kind:  http://www.irs.gov/Individuals/Earned-Income-Tax-Credit-(EITC)-%E2%80%93–Use-the-EITC-Assistant-to-Find-Out-if-You-Should-Claim-it.

How to find free tax preparers:  http://www.irs.gov/Individuals/Free-Tax-Return-Preparation-for-You-by-Volunteers

How to find your local IRS office:  http://www.irs.gov/uac/Contact-Your-Local-IRS-Office-1


592 thoughts on “Will I Go to Jail for EIC Fraud?

  1. I have a question.. Me and my girlfriend have a 2 year old together. We were together 6 months out of this year, broke up, then we had custody off and on for a few months. Then she decided she was gunna move to south Carolina and was going to take her with her.. Before she left me and her both agreed to let her go visit her grandma and grandma (my parents) for a few weeks so they could spend some time with her before she moved to south Carolina. My ex was supposed to go pick her up the first week of November but flaked. And my job in Montana is seasonal and won’t let me have her in my housing, so she was stuck with staying with my parents but I’ve gone to visit, sent money, and bought her the things she needs. Would I be in the wrong if I claimed her as a dependent on my taxes?

  2. I did my husband’s taxes late for 2014, his oldest daughter lived with us the entire year. I called a tax preparer office and gave very specific details of the situation and asked if we were legally able to claim his daughter. Was told yes. The EIC is now under investigation. Part of it was already disbursed through child support (all of it would be anyways) and I need to know what happens if it is determined that the EIC was in error. Do we have to pay back what was already disbursed or does the mom that received the back child support?

  3. Hi Amber,
    What you do is file a zero dollar return and claim your kids on there. Now, if you use tax software and show no income, you often can’t get the program to work. What I do is put $1 on the “other income” line – that’s line 21. Your return will process, you’re children’s social security numbers will have been used, and you’ll prevent your ex from selling their exemptions.

  4. Hi Nicholas,
    So you lived with your daughter for at least 6 months out of the year so it sounds like you have a legal claim for putting her as a dependent on your tax return. But since you’re asking, I’m guessing that other folks want to claim her as well. So, do you have a legal claim? Yes. Do you have the highest legal claim? I’m still thinking yes, although I don’t know the whole story. It sounds to me like your daughter was with you more than with your ex – so you’d win there. And, even though she is with your parents now, as the father, you have the higher legal claim. (But you’ll want to be nice to them as they are caring for her right now–but the child should be on your tax return.)

  5. Hi Sarah,
    If you legally claimed the EIC then you should’t be worried about the audit – it will prove you out. But if you should not have claimed the EIC and you do have to pay it back, the IRS will be looking to you to repay the money.

  6. Hi, I realized that I have been claiming some kids for the the last 3 years that I was not quality claim , can I file a 1040x if so I’m so scared that irs might charge me with fraud and go to jail.. I have not been eating I want to die due to this mess that I have created . I’m scared that they might not se it as a error .

  7. Let me clarify I was claiming 2 kids and I will send 1040x due to I realized that I did not qualify to claim those 2 kids , will the irs question me like how could you have not known , I’m really scared I feel like I’m in a alley with no way out . I’ll pay whatever I have to but what is they accuse me of fraud that means I could loose my job or can ever get a job nowhere because it goes on my record . please advise

  8. Hi Jan. I had a question for you. So back in January of last year a co worker had asked me to claim two of her children due to the realization she would only get EIC for two children, (she has 4 children total) for additional financial gain. I refused to take part of it because I knew it was illegal and if I got caught I would get in big trouble. So instead she got another co-worker to claim her two kids and got the refund. She bragged that even though I wouldn’t help her she got EIC without me. I wrote to the IRS and completed form 3949-A . I gave them her name, DOB, where she worked and place of residence along with information about the person she got to claim her 2 kids. This was back in March of 2015 and I never heard back from the IRS. So what I’m asking is does the IRS contact you back to thank you or inform you that they received your letter? I question whether they even received my letter although I am positive I sent it to the right address because the IRS never got in contact with me. Also because my co-worker talked about getting the same person to claim her kids again so I am assuming she never got a letter from the IRS? Is this a long process? Should I send in another letter or continue to wait?

  9. Thank you for your response Jan. I’m not a tax guru and don’t wanna get in any trouble. And yes you are right my ex thinks she should be the one to claim her. So just one more question.. If it came down to a battle against us two. Would my daughter being in the care of my family because her mom left to south Carolina instead of going to get go twords my favor? Time wise? Cause we broke up this June, I moved out and we had her off and on for almost two months. Then my family had her the rest of the year cause my employee housing wouldn’t let me have my daughter with me.

  10. Hi Jan , will u be coming back for advise , I amended my returns for las 3 years of claimimg dependents that I was not qualified will the irs prosecute me ? Please respond I’m very scared will I need a attorney ?

  11. Hi Linda,
    I would file a 1040X and make arrangements to pay back the tax. You doing it before the IRS catches you will pre-empt the more serious charges of fraud. Now, I wouldn’t worry about jail. The IRS doesn’t jail folks for under $40,000 in tax debt – that’s according to a revenue agent that I spoke with at at tax preparer conference. That $40K is per year, not a total of tax owed.

    Now please don’t die or anything awful like that. This is a mess, and a problem, but you’re trying to make it right. Hold your head up.

    Seriously, when you’re talking to IRS agents, or even tax preparers and you’ve claimed kids on your return that you should not have claimed, you may get some attitude. I’m a tax professional and they give me crap for representing people who have made “mistakes” so I can only imagine how they can treat a regular citizen. That said, some of them are the nicest people in the world with wonderful hearts and are completely understanding. You always pray to get the nice one, but sometimes you get the “other” one.

    I suggest getting some professional help with this. A professional may find some other issues that you won’t wind up owing quite so much. Maybe you’re entitled to the exemption even if you can’t claim EIC or something like that. If the preparer gives you attitude, get a different one. You don’t need to pay money for that. (I used to work with a guy that yelled at his clients, then he didn’t understand why they didn’t come back. Duh!)

    Keep repeating to yourself, “I’m bright, I’m beautiful, I’m talented! I made a mistake, but I’m fixing it. I’m a good person!” It’s advice from an old friend’s mother from years ago when I was back in college. Keep repeating that to yourself until it sinks in. Good luck!

  12. @Linda – What you do with the IRS is none of your job’s business. The only way your job would ever find out anything is if the IRS were to garnish your wages because you didn’t set up some sort of payment arrangement. But you’re being all above board about wanting to pay so that’s not going to be an issue for you.

  13. Hi Sofia,
    It’s a very long process and the IRS will never tell you if they did process your complaint. You’ll never know because of confidentiality rules.
    You don’t need to send another letter, you’ve done your part.

  14. Hi Linda,
    Sorry, I only get to answer about once a week. I’ve got tax returns to work on. You’ve already amended. I think you’re going to be fine. You’re gong to owe, but that’s about it.

  15. I realized my ex (we were not married, ever) had been claiming our kids on his tax returns for a couple of years. He has no visitation, no rights, no contact whatsoever with the children, and it has been this way for years. He is court ordered to pay child support but on the judgement the foc ruled that he is to only file for himself, not the kids. I did not sign the 8332 form to allow him to file them. I did report him for fraud, but I have no idea what the IRS does in cases like this.


  16. Hi Hopeful,
    The IRS will not tell you if they ever did anything to your ex. But why don’t you claim your own children on your return? It’s the best way to prevent him from doing it.

  17. My girlfriend has been claiming a child that she gave up for adoption at Birth. I just found out she’s been doing it for 21 years.. what kind of trouble can she get in if any.

  18. Hi Darrin,
    21 years? I can’t imagine how she’s done that. Every time I think I’ve heard it all – along comes something wild like that. How’d she even get the social security number? Oh- that’s none of my business – I’m just curious

    Bottom line – I suppose that the worst would be that she gets caught and the IRS would ask her to pay back the taxes. I doubt they would go back more than 3 years. Worst case, and I don’t think they’d do it – but the worst possible case I think would be they go back 10 years. But I can’t imagine jail or anything like that.

  19. Hi so my girlfriend made the mistake of helping her ex friend by letting him claim 2 of her kids .. the situation was that he owed money to the irs so he figured he could pay off w.e debt he had and give her the rest of the money. At first it seemed like a good idea to both of them and it went through and came back (the check was cut and his debt was payed off” .. it seemed that he kept his word and signed away the check to her. But later it turns out that he wanted half and demanded her to pay him for “helping her” .. they had a falling out and ended their friendship… now 7 months later he says he got a letter from the irs asking for certain proof .. my question is .. how much trouble is she in ? We’re literally dumbfounded..I’m mainly worried for her. I know it was a stupid choice but it was honestly a mistake that she doesn’t plan on ever doing it again

  20. Hi Cid,
    So what your girlfriend did was commit tax fraud. Let that sink in for a minute before you and she get married or anything like that. Definitely let that sink in before you ever try to claim her kids on your tax return because you see how it can come back to bite you right in the backside.

    So – who had something to lose with her letting the ex claim the kids? Are they his kids at all? Where’s the real father? I’m guessing that the real father perhaps filed a return claiming the children. Or, maybe the ex has an enemy. Or may your girlfriend does. Or, possibly, the IRS figured this one out all by themselves. Like a guy, claiming 2 kids that aren’t his, that he’s never claimed before on a tax return? Occasionally the IRS can figure those out without any outside help. Or, and this is the really scary part for you – maybe it was your girlfriend who turned in her ex when he started asking her for money.

    The reason I’m telling you all this is the part where you say it was “honestly a mistake”. No – it wasn’t a mistake, it was intentional fraud. Most likely, she’s going to come out of this just fine. She didn’t file the fraudulent return. The ex did. The IRS received the return from the ex. The IRS cut the check to the ex. I’m guessing that he cashed the check and gave her cash. It will be hard to prove she did anything wrong.

    So what will happen to the ex? He’ll have to pay back that tax, plus he’ll be hit with late payment penalties. He could – if the refund is large enough, also be hit with a fraud penalty or an accuracy related penalty. He’s going to be even worse off than before he filed that return.

    What does this mean for you? It means do not, not now, not ever, claim this woman’s children on your tax return unless you are married to her. Even if you marry her, you’re going to want to think twice before claiming those kids as I’m pretty sure there’s someone else out there claiming them. You seem like the innocent bystander in this. The best thing for you is to keep it that way.

  21. My next door neighbor is a grandma of two infant children 2 years old and 3 years old live with the mother in AZ. The mother of the children is an immigrant from Mexico and cannot claim income taxes because she works illegally in the United States she lives in Az. The grandma is here in NM and has been calming the two children since they’ve been born. They both knowingly and willing do this and split the money at the end. Can you do this even if they live in two different states and are blood grandchildren?

  22. My son works a state job He was 19 at the time he claimed eic for his girlfriend’s two kids. He has no children. He gave her half of the return and was told months later by the irs he was unable to claim the kids because of his age. He has to pay it all back and is almost done paying. My question is can he sue her for half of the amount he paid her with a cashiers check and can prove she received it. He is now in college and I feel like she should be held accountable

  23. Hi Nora,
    It depends. If the grandmother lives in NM and the grandchildren live in AZ, then she cannot claim EIC for those grandchildren. BUT – and this is an important but – she might be able to claim those grandchildren as dependents, if all the other circumstances are met. So it all sort of depends upon the circumstances and what she’s actually claiming.

  24. Hi Alease,
    Questions about whether he can sue someone or not are legal questions and that’s out of my league. I’m only a tax person, not an attorney. But let me just phrase this a little differently and see how you would answer the question. A guy holds up a liquor store and gives half the money to his girlfriend. He later gets caught and pleads guilty and goes on probation, his girlfriend does not get caught. Can he later take his girlfriend to court and sue her for the money he stole from the liquor store and gave to her?

  25. How do I go about filing Earned Income Tax Credit Fraud against my daughter’s father? He stole my daughter’s social security number and filed. My daughter lives with me. And he pays me child support. Could you please tell me where I start?

  26. Hi Nicole,
    Maybe filing fraud charges against someone who pays you child support is not in your best interests. Just saying. What I do think you should do is make sure that you are getting the EIC (if you qualify). The best way to do that is to claim your daughter on your own tax return. This is 100% the best way to let the IRS know that someone else should not be claiming your child on his tax return.
    It also just has you “doing the right thing” instead of reporting him for fraud. (You are kind of reporting him for fraud, but you’re never actually using that term.)
    Now, I’m guessing that you and the ex don’t get along. But just in case, this is an article you should read: http://robergtaxsolutions.com/2015/01/tax-strategy-for-exes-that-get-along/

    Working together as parents is so much better when you’re trying to do what’s best for your daughter. I’m suggesting this because he actually is paying the child support – that says something. He may actually care about your child- so you have something in common!

    But, I’m going to assume that working together is not an option. File a tax return. That’s really the best thing you can do. If you prefer to file a fraud complaint, look here: http://robergtaxsolutions.com/2010/11/how-to-report-tax-fraud/

  27. Hey so I am pretty sure my best friend is filing taxes wrong. Last year she claimed a kid that she isn’t even related to and most certainly didn’t take care of and this year she plans on doing so again and this time it’s a totally different kid. I told her that I don’t THINK that’s legal and she just shrugs me off. How do I keep her from making such a stupid decision? Like…I don’t understand why people do this stuff.

  28. I have a question? Is it illegal to claim your sister because your parents don’t claim her? I pay for her all during the year. But my question is my parents are fixing their taxes now and are going to claim those 2 years that i claimed her. Can I get penalized now that they are claiming her those years?

  29. Hi Ashley,
    It is not illegal to claim your sister if you meet all the requirements. And even if you weren’t supposed to claim her – it sounds like it would have been an honest mistake at the worst. I mean, your parents didn’t bother to claim her before.

    Here’s what you’ll want to do. The IRS website has something called an EITC Assistant. They ask a bunch of questions, you answer them and it tells you if you are able to claim someone for EIC or not. That’s going to tell you if you were in the right or not. Here’s the link: EITC Assistant

    If you were in the right – then you have no problem.

    If you were in the wrong – then what could happen is that the IRS will refigure your tax and you will have to pay back the difference, plus there will be a late payment penalty plus interest. I doubt that you’ll get hit with a fraud penalty – you are family. You could probably get them to abate the penalty for the first year you claimed her. (Take the penalty away.) They won’t do it for the second year, but the first year you should be okay.

    If you find that you should not have claimed your sister, if you have a decent relationship with your parents, maybe you could work this out amongst yourselves instead of going through the IRS? I know that’s not always easy, but if you can work between yourselves instead of the government, it might be better for all of you. Good luck.

  30. My father has been claiming a child every year on my taxes for a few years now and I’m not even sure if its the same child.I had no idea and recently found out via a letter from the IRS basically looking as though they had already completed a EIC investigation and had a final amount that I had to pay totaling $11,000. I’m f****** furious and I already spoke to the IRS and they sent me the form to report him. I just want to know what his consequences may be after all the f****** they put me through it s still my dad. I remember last year my tax return was late and when I called my parents to check on it they said it might not come they had to send in more information I changed jobs that year so I thought it may have been due to that. but the letter the IRS sent stated that for my last return they sent out only what I was suppose to receive prior to find the previous years so that’s just the total from like 20102, 2013, and 2014.and when I asked him about it he said they didn’t even send the money, so why they keep reaching out to me… um hello because you did it more than once and when they caught you they look further into my taxes!! but all that aside should I just send this form in and what are his worse case consequences and how long does something like this take to get through my last years taxes were impacted because of this and this year I have my own beautiful 9 month old baby boy. I cant even use it for myself or my son.

  31. Hello Jan,

    My granddaughter is 3 and my grandson is 2. When the 3 year old was only 8 months old both her parents were arrested and there has been an on again/off again custody case since. I have had temporary custody of both children since this past summer. I recently have learned that the mother’s father has claimed both children since they were born. My granddaughter lived with him along with her parents for a couple months after her birth but not since and he is not a party to the custody case. My understanding is that the mother’s father claims the children then gives the mother the difference he gets in his refund by claiming them. Their mother was on state aid until I got custody and their father (my son) has been in prison since his arrest when my granddaughter was a baby, so neither parent files taxes themselves. Because the grandfather that claims the children is an accountant and tax preparer, I assumed this was legal until I learned they plan for him to file again this year even though the children have been in my custody for the past 6 months. I don’t know that I’ve had them long enough to claim them myself, however the children have never been his dependants. Would you please advise me on whether this is legal since he has the mothers consent to claim them? Also, if it is not legal, could you tell me what penalties the grandfather and possibly the mother may face if the IRS catches it?

    Thank you.

  32. I should add that the mother never signed anything giving her father permission to claim the children. It was just a verbal agreement between them. They have also bragged that they got more due to EIC. I don’t know tax law at all but if I understand correctly he could potentially claim them if she signed a form but wouldn’t be able to claim EIC? I’m confused about all this and though I’m not intending to report them I do feel they shouldn’t be allowed to do this again this year, especially if there’s a chance I will qualify to claim them. They were with me almost half time until 6 months ago when I got the current custody order.

  33. Hi Couture,
    I’m sorry about your problem. And it is a big problem, I’m not going to sugar coat it. This is a clear cut case of fraud and as far as the IRS is concerned, it’s your taxes. You say they mailed you a form. How nice. Sorry for the sarcasm there, but that’s their out. They mail you a form.

    Now let’s say you are absolutely, 100% innocent in this. How do you prove your innocence? It’s really tough. And I can tell by your post that you’re really angry (I would be too!) But just a fair warning, the anger won’t help you with the IRS. So remember, when you’re dealing with them – develop a really thick skin–because you’re bound to talk to someone who’s going to sound a bit accusing. And be patient. If you use curse words, (like the ones I had to delete) at the IRS, they will record your calls, put the language you used in the transcript, and it will come back to haunt you. I know this because I represented a guy who told me how abusive the IRS had been to him – and when I called the IRS to defend my client they read back the whole transcript – I was lucky they didn’t have him arrested (yeah, it was that bad!)

    So, this is the kind of questions they are going to ask. This is the stuff they are thinking. This is what you are up against.

    1. “So Ms Couture, I have a copy of the 1040 return that you signed under penalties of perjury that you have examined the tax return and that it is true and correct to the best of your knowledge. Is that your signature on the return?”

    Did you sign it? Or did your dad forge your signature? Now if your dad forged your signature, you’ve got a whole other problem – he is your dad. So right here you’ve got a lose/lose situation.

    2. “So, Ms Couture, you say you didn’t sign the return, but you did receive the money from these tax returns is that correct? Weren’t you the least bit suspicious that the United States Treasury was sending you large checks when you never filed a tax return in the first place?”

    See how this is going? It’s ugly, no matter what.

    Now your Dad says the IRS never even sent the money so why are they asking you about it? I’m with you on this one. Um…hello? They are going to keep digging until there’s nothing left to find. And, since it’s fraud, they can go back as far as their little hearts desire!

    I hate to make things worse than they already are, but you could wind up owing way more than $11,000. I just figure I should put that out there now. Depending on how this audit is going–if the $11,000 is just the tax, once they add in the penalties and interest it could be even more. Late payment penalties can go up to 25%. Fraud penalties are 20%. That’s 45% more! Then there’s interest.

    I think you need someone to represent you. Do not use the same person your dad uses – that would be a conflict of interest. You and your Dad are at cross purposes here. This is hard – he’s family. That’s why you want a professional. Someone who can stand back and say – this is what happened, these are your options. In the end, you will make the choices you make – but an outsider can at least put those choices out there for you plainly. And a professional can at least fight for you – reduce the penalties where possible.

    Tiffany, this is really important– You now have a beautiful baby boy of your own, you’re starting on a whole new life! Get this taken care of and put behind you as quickly as possible. Guard your child’s social security number like it’s gold – because it is like gold. And never let your father do your taxes again as long as you live.

    This is not going to be easy. Good luck!

  34. Dear Grandma with Custody,
    The most important piece of information that I’m looking at is the word “custody”. So, when did the grandchildren move in with you? You say, “past 6 months”. So did they move in June 30? Or July 15th? It makes a difference. You see, you need to have them live with you for “over” six months. I live this IRS interview about claiming dependents: Who Can I Claim as a Dependent?

    I think, for your sanity, you should only concern yourself with what you can or cannot do. Technically, if the grand father never had custody, he should not have claimed the grandchildren. But – who’s going to complain? The person “wronged” was the child’s parent, but it sounds like he gave her the money. Yes – that was wrong – but she’s already in jail. You could file a fraud report – but you might need this man as an ally to help you with these grandchildren in the future.

    This is hard for me I’m pretty much appalled at a tax professional cheating on taxes – but I’m also really big on children being able to get a square meal and have a roof over their heads.

    So, if the children did not live with the accountant grandfather, then he should not claim them. But it sounds like this would be a good time for grandparents on both sides to get together and discuss what is best for the grandchildren. That should be both of your goals I would think.

  35. If the children lived in the grandparent’s home, the daughter would not need to sign an 8332 form. That’s only for divorced (or never married) parents where the custodial parent releases the exemption, but not EIC.

  36. Hello Jan,

    The children have been in my legal custody sine July 11th but were living in my home 50% of the time from Jan 1 until July 11th. My son is in prison but the childrens mother has been out of jail since before the birth of the second child. She has not lived with her father for 3 years and he is more interested in how much money they may bring him than what is best for the children. There is absolutely no way he will work with me for the benefit of the children, however the other grandmother that the children did live with is still involved and is seeking to help me obtain permanent custody as she believes that would be in the children’s best interest. She lived with her daughter and the children the other 50% of the time since her daughter was released from jail. I will be seeing a preparer to see if my documentation will allow me to claim the children. My concern is that if the grandfather claims them this year that I shouldn’t claim them even if I qualify to do so. In as much as I don’t think it’s fair and would like to claim them if I legally can, I would feel terrible if by doing so the grandfather may be charged with fraud. I would assume that could set off an audit if we both claim. I have nothing to fear from an audit on my part, but do not wish to cause legal or job issues for the grandfather. That is why I asked about the possible penalties he could face. The mother is already a felon and I am not trying to cause her any harm, I just don’t believe under her circumstances that she is in a condition to raise her children at this time. But she will always be their mother and I want her to have a relationship with them until the day one or the other of the parents are in a position to raise them. My concern is causing more harm to her and legal or job issues for her father.
    Thank you.

  37. So my friend has been letting her friend claim 1 of her children for the past 3 years for EIC. She received a letter from the IRS. What are HER consequences?

  38. Hi Leslie,
    Well, she let her friend claim her child illegally. Usually, the penalties are for the person who claimed the child illegally. But the IRS is now going all out after EIC fraud and identity theft so to be honest, I don’t know what will happen to her. The IRS would have to prove that your friend actually was guilty though – I think that would be difficult to prove.

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